An innocent visit to the Anti-Idiotarian Manifesto resulted in a heated cross between philosophical discussion and debate between Tomasz and I.
I find it really difficult to agree with what ESR says about the necessity of war, but I realise that this is because I am, in not so drastic a degree as Tomasz, an idealist.
One product of our discussion is the public apology to Vietnam. Another is a wealth of knowledge. Another is a text file containing an extensive chat about politics and humanity.